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Saturday
Jan072012

Sig Sauer P239 SAS vs Ruger SR40c .40 S&W; Pistols

After writing yesterdays SR40c review, I decided to take my Sig Sauer P239 SAS (first generation) and the Ruger SR40c to the range for a .40 S&W pistol comparison.  Both are primarily designed to be concealed carry self-defense pistols. 

I bought my Sig P239 SAS using the Law Enforcement purchase program in 2007 when I worked at DHS Homeland Security Investigations (formerly known as the ICE Palace).  The pistol comes out of the Sig custom shop and theyre relatively rare, having been replaced by the Generation 2 model. This concealed carry version of the P239 is called the SIG Anti-Snag or SAS. It has a dehorned stainless steel slide with custom SIG wooden grips and the DAK trigger system. Both generations have front night sights but the Generation 2 of the SAS variant features a DA/SA SRT (Short Reset Trigger) with slimmer polymer grips. I have the original walnut grips, Sig Polymer grips and Hogue Rubber Grips for my SAS.  Yesterday I fired it with the Hogue Rubber Grips, which give me the most accuracy. The Polymer grips are best for concealment and the walnut grips, wll they look great dont they?

My SAS features an altered version of the double-action only (DAO) pistols called the DAK (for Double Action Kellerman, after the designer of the system). The DAK capability is also available in 220, 226, 229 and 239 models.

When firing the pistol the first trigger pull is 6.5 lbs (compared to 10 pounds for the standard DAO). After the pistol fires and the trigger is released forward, the trigger has an intermediate reset point that is approximately halfway to the trigger at rest position. The trigger pull from this intermediate reset point is 8.5 lbs. If the trigger is released all the way forward, this will engage the primary trigger reset and have a trigger pull of 6.5 lbs. To engage the intermediate reset, the trigger must be held to the rear while the slide is cycled, either manually or by the recoil of a round being fired.

Sound complicated?  The DAK is extremely smooth, relatively light and comfortable for me to shoot. However, there is a bit of a learning curve. Shot one is a long DAK pull, but the rest of the mag can be shot using the reset.  The short reset on the DAK is a shorter pull with an extremely crisp break, which really reminds me of my Glock trigger.

But I have to admit its not quite as accurate as my Glock 36 (.45 ACP), but I am happy with the results using the reset. However it is more accurate than the Ruger SR40c (in my hands).  This is ironic because I prefer shooting the Ruger, because I prefer the SR40c trigger action.  Its short, smooth and single action like in feel and performance.  Unfortunately, the sights on the Ruger are adjustable and I dont know of anyone who has found one to be on targer right out of the box.  Adjusting the windage is a challenge, at least for me. 

You can read my SR40c from yesterday below this post.

I took both .40 pistols to the range, hoping to decide which one I was willing to sell. I have a .38 & .357(revolvers) and .380, 9mm and a .45  pistols to go along with my two .40 S&Ws, so I decided one needed to go.  I bought the Ruger SR40c for my wife but its just too much gun for her.  I was thinking about trading it for a SR9c (9mm). But she has a Glock 26 (her daily carry is a Sig pistol is  a P238, .380).

I really like both .40s a lot.  I shot 100 rounds of white box practice ammo and 50 rounds of Federal 155 grain jacketed hollow points through both pistols. Both pistols performed flawlessly.  I like the Rugers trigger pull, balance, weight and recoil and 15 round magazine capacity. I like the sights, accuracy,durability and over all looks of the Sig.  By the way, the Sig loaded with 8 self-defense rounds weighs 950 grams. The Ruger loaded with TWICE as many self-defense rounds (16) weighs 960 grams. Watching most of the shooters at the range today consistently miss their targets at 50 feet, I must admit increased round capacity is a HUGE plus.

I like shooting and carrying both pistols.  Bottom line, Im not ready to sell either one.  The P239 has a 7 round magazine. The SR40c comes with a 9 round mag AND a 15 round mag.   For the money the Ruger SR40c is the best pistol I ever purchased.  I didnt expect that to be the case when I bought it for $415. The P239 SAS Gen2 costs more than twice as much, at around $850.

By the way, if I could only own one pistol, it would be the Glock 36, compact .45 with the single stack magazine. Stay safe. Life is good.

Friday
Jan062012

Ruger SR40c Review

Ruger has built a pistol series (SR) with a desirable set of features. The overall fit and finish of the SR40c is excellent. Available in either stainless-steel slide or black Nitron, the pistol features satin rounds and polished flats, with front and rear serrations for easy operation. The three-dot sights are of a rugged, black, metallic construction with a dove-tailed rear sight featuring a click adjustment screw for height. The frame, trigger and magazine release are all made of high-performance glass-filled nylon. The new SR40c is almost identical in size, feel, and weight to the SR9c, 9mm pistol.

The external safeties include a trigger safety, and an ambidextrous thumb safety that blocks both the slide and trigger from moving. The thumb safety is very sleek, but easy to disengage or engage. The SR40c has a visible loaded chamber indicator. The bar-shaped indicator, its located on the top of the slide, behind the chamber opening, its painted bright red on both sides and includes the words “LOADED WHEN UP” .

The slide locks open on an empty magazine, and the pistol will not fire if dropped, or if a magazine is not in place. Im not a fan of this feature, as the round in the chamber will not fire, when you drop the magazine for a combat reload.

The size of the loaded chamber indicator appears to be over the top for experienced hand gun owners. But if you follow Rugers suggestion of running your fingers across the top of the slide in the dark it makes sense. The indicator rides just high enough that you can feel theres a round in the chamber without opening the slide. When the SR40c is cocked, the rounded tip of the striker is visible via a port in the rear slide plate. This provides yet another way to check the status of the pistol.

The SR40c is a pleasure to shoot. Many have found .40 S&W; pistols in this class to be snappy or uncomfortable to work with. This is not the case with the SR40c. The expected level of recoil is present, but the pistol design mitigates it. The recoil goes back not up. The grip feels terrific in my hands, similar to the single stack Glock 36, .45 ACP subcompact. The frame is smooth and slightly curved to let the thumb and trigger finger slide right into place. The texturing on the front strap and side panels provide just the right amount of roughness for the other three fingers to grab on to. The SR40c features a reversible rubber back strap to grip the palm effectively for shooters with different size hands.

The SR40c features three configurations for its steel magazines. The 15-round magazine with the grip extension sleeve worked nicely to make the grip feel like a duty-sized pistol. The nine-round magazine fitted with the finger extension felt just as good without any pinching or nibbling of the ring finger that some extensions can cause. Since the grip frame provides plenty of room for a full two-finger grip, the gun still felt comfortable and controllable with the flat magazine base in place on the nine-round magazine, but I liked the extension better. The D-shaped ambidextrous magazine release buttons are checkered and accessible, but more difficult to release than any other pistol that I own (Glocks & Sigs). You really have to press hard from either side to get the mag to drop.

It took some practice to get used to the SR40c trigger because it felt lighter and faster than most striker-fired pistols. I found this action to be my favorite feature on this pistol. The most oft-heard comment about the SR40c at Gunsite among the writers, reviewers, and instructors was how soft-shooting the pistol felt in the hand. Recoil is not painful at all, and the weapon is very quick to get back on target between shots

Most Glocks have 5-pound 8-ounce trigger, with a travel stroke of 1/2 inch, and a little over-travel at the end of the stroke. The SR40c has a 6-pound 4-ounce trigger, but the travel stroke is only 3/8 inch with no perceptible over-travel. So even though the SR40c is just a little heavier in the trigger, its smooth feel and shorter stroke distance make it feel crisp and quick. In other words, it is an excellent trigger for an out-of-the-box striker-fired pistol.

The SR series pistols are excellent choices for beginning marksmen and those new to firearms. I know of 3 novices that shot both the Glock 26 and either the SR9c or the SR40c. All three preferred the Ruger, especially the trigger action and grip.

When it came to feeding the SR40c, it was content with everything I stuffed in the magazine. I tried a variety of practice-grade and full-metal jacket rounds, and they all fired and functioned without any hiccups. I havent had a single malfunction over two sessions, firing 250 rounds.

Accuracy testing proved to be challenging. I am not a hunter and have never adjusted fixed sites. Out of the box the pistol shot high and to the left. Windage adjustment is the most challenging and I wish the gun was sited better at Ruger.

The slim, contoured grip and overall ergonomics of the pistol are top notch and comfortable to work with. The trigger is excellent from the first shot forward. And the mix of magazines and magazine accessories are ready to go for concealed carry or for home defense. Best of all, the gun proved to be utterly reliable with all of the ammunition tested.

The SR40c is a very nice pistol available at a very reasonable price (you can find it for less than $450).

Manufacturer: Sturm, Ruger & Co., Inc.; Ruger.com
Model: SR40c
Action: Striker-Fired Double-Action Only
Caliber: 40 S&W;
Slide Finish: Stainless Steel or Nitridox Pro Black Alloy Steel
Frame: Black High Performance Glass-Filled Nylon
Sights: Adjustable 3-Dot
Barrel Length: 3.50”
Overall Length: 6.85”
Height: 4.61”
Width: 1.27”
Weight: 23.40 Ozs., Unloaded
Capacity: 15+1 Rounds, 9+1 Rounds
Twist: 1:16” RH
Rifle Grooves: 6
Accessories: One 15-Round Magazine with grip extension sleeve, one 9-round magzine with flat and extended base, magazine loader, lock
Suggested Retail Price: $525.00